# Determinism

**URL:** <https://discourse.numenta.org/t/determinism/4823>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [October 26, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://discourse.numenta.org/t/determinism/4823 "2018-10-26T16:32:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Falco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8797f3/32.png) [@Falco](https://discourse.numenta.org/u/Falco)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://discourse.numenta.org/t/determinism/4823/90 "2018-11-17T01:27:50Z")

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> [@Bitking](#):
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> I’m glad we have that sorted.

Nice try. Don’t write your Nobel prize acceptance speach just yet. ;-).

From that post:

> [@Intelligence vs Consciousness](https://discourse.numenta.org/t/intelligence-vs-consciousness/2595/41):
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> One of these is all-important to the concept of self-awareness: the nerve bundle connecting words to grammar (arcuate fasciculus) is about in the right place to inject forebrain planning as a sensation.

I suppose it’s not what you mean, but it sounds like according to this, creatures without language can’t form conscious thoughts. Or is it that the place, where thoughts become conscious, is located in the area where words and grammar are also processed in human brains?

This next bit sounds interesting. I have no means to verify it, but I guess it’s plausible:

> [@Intelligence vs Consciousness](https://discourse.numenta.org/t/intelligence-vs-consciousness/2595/41):
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> As you form and process plans these are unwrapped and projected at the appropriate point in the sensory stream so that you are aware of your own plans as if they were some of your sensed environment; these are injected into the sensory stream and processed as if it were external stimuli.

So… the plans are formed and processed. And then they are projected in the sensory stream. In that order.

Maybe this takes multiple passes. But still in each pass, first a part of the plan is formed from mechanistic components (release of neurotransmitters, build-up of action-potentials, firing neurons, etc) and during that process, after a measurable time of 50 to 200ms, gradually this becomes part of the conscious experience.

And then of course, it still doesn’t explain what exactly this _projection_ is.

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